[DIPLO] BUG Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

[DIPLO] BUG Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par kotoha » 29 Nov 2017 4:01

In Game #2924922, I had played 281 traveling salesman.
I want to play first 137.turnip field and sow 2 vegetable, second 69 strawberry patch.
I take major improvement action place to play 2 minor improvement,but I cant play second minor improvement.
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Re: BUG? Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par Grumpkin » 29 Nov 2017 16:31

The wording on Traveling Salesman seems to require the two minors to be played simultaneously, whereas a card effect like that of Businessman has a clear sequence of plays.
https://alavigne.net/Gaming/Agricola/ag ... .html#K281
https://alavigne.net/Gaming/Agricola/ag ... .html#I228
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Re: BUG? Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par kotoha » 30 Nov 2017 3:28

simultaneously! I understand.
Thank you very much.
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Re: BUG? Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par covadis » 30 Nov 2017 9:32

kotoha a écrit :simultaneously! I understand.
Thank you very much.

So you can change your title, to avoid that admin look at this "problem" before a real one :)
Thank you
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Re: BUG? Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par frederic.moulis » 30 Nov 2017 10:00

covadis a écrit :
kotoha a écrit :simultaneously! I understand.
Thank you very much.

So you can change your title, to avoid that admin look at this "problem" before a real one :)
Thank you

done
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Re: [NO BUG] Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par Oldie » 30 Nov 2017 10:10

I don't agree. The word simultaneously isn't written anywhere it's just your interpretation of "you can play 2 minor improvements". Usually in Agricola if you are doing two things simultaneously, you have the choice in which order to do them. So i still think it's a bug.
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Re: [NO BUG] Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par Striker » 30 Nov 2017 11:15

What Oldie said.
You take the "Major or Minor Improvement" action and Travelling Salesman allows you to play 2 Minor Improvements.
First you play Turnip Field and complete all the wording on the card, such as take the Sow action.
Second you then play a second Minor Improvement card as allowed for by the Travelling Salesman. This could be the Strawberry Patch as you now meet the requirement of 2 Vegetable fields (or another Minor Improvement that remains unplayed in your hand).
Obviously not sure why the system prevented you from playing a second Minor Improvement but it is definitely a bug in my opinion.
Whether this is a bug from the Travelling Salesman or from the Strawberry Patch (or something else), that is for an admin to figure out.
There are 10 types of people in the world; those that understand binary and those that don't.
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Re: [NO BUG] Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry patch

Message par frederic.moulis » 30 Nov 2017 11:22

ok, ok, I rollback the title modification :D
You'll have to wait for diplojak
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Re: [DIPLO] BUG Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry pa

Message par kotoha » 30 Nov 2017 12:30

I will report the situation again exactly.

I had one empty field tile on the player board and two vegetable.
I had played Traveling salesman and two other occupations.
I don't have playable small improvement without turnip field.

I Woul'd take a major improvement action to play 2 minor improvement.
First I play turnip field, and sow 2 vegetable.
The next thing that appeared was a button for confirmation of termination.

Because of minor improvement buttun is not displayed after sow action in the above situation, i could'nt play my strawberry patch.
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Re: [DIPLO] BUG Game #2924922 turnip field and strawberry pa

Message par cephero » 20 Déc 2017 7:13

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Bonjour diplojak
Peut-on avoir ton opinion sur cette situation stp ... les deux aménagements mineurs sont-ils à jouer simultanément (c.a.d que leurs conditions doivent être validées à tous les deux en début de tour) ou peuvent-ils être joués en séquence (le premier permettant de valider les conditions de l'autre) ?

Afin de savoir à quoi s'en tenir dans le futur
J'ai personnellement toujours joué à table avec la deuxième interprétation, mais en lisant les arguments des uns et des autres je ne suis plus sûr ni d'une interprétation ni de l'autre

merci et bonnes fêtes
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