altar of gold

altar of gold

Message par metron » 08 Mai 2017 23:44

Hi

How can I renounce of paying any gold in Altar of Gold effect?
Minimum is set to 1 and cannot be zeroed, thank you.
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Message par frederic.moulis » 08 Mai 2017 23:50

Well... did you read the text on the card ?
"1 to 8" is not "0 to 8" nor "at most 8" or whatever expression that means "you may pay 0"
so you must pay at least 1.
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Message par metron » 08 Mai 2017 23:52

But there is also written that is effect, not cost.
Does it mean I cannot also buy think cap if I don't have two seperate pairs of ingredients?
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Message par frederic.moulis » 08 Mai 2017 23:56

Thinking Cap : "Test up to two..."

0 is up to two
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Message par metron » 09 Mai 2017 0:04

Agree but it does make sense here, saying pay 0 gold to 8 gold to gain that many point would sound weird.
I would focus rather on differencing cost and effect, I'm not obligated to fitfull effect once I've already bought artifact.
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Message par frederic.moulis » 09 Mai 2017 0:05

yes you must apply effect
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Message par frederic.moulis » 09 Mai 2017 0:06

no doubt about this
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Message par metron » 09 Mai 2017 0:08

It doesn't go "You must pay 1..." but ok, I glad I've faced it in winning game :)
cheers 8)
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Message par metron » 09 Mai 2017 0:19

Just one question Frederic, what if I want to buy witch's trunk and there are less than 7 ingrediens available?
Taking same analogy I couldn't buy it?
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Message par frederic.moulis » 09 Mai 2017 0:21

"pay 1 to 8" is more likely "you must" than "you may"
this is not the point : you must apply the effect
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Message par frederic.moulis » 09 Mai 2017 0:23

there will never be less than 7 ingredients if players do not play like %€£¥₩
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Message par metron » 09 Mai 2017 0:23

It is only your intepretation, same as it would be 'you must draw 7 ingredients' :)
And you don't answer my question 8)
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Message par metron » 09 Mai 2017 0:24

maybe they are some set collectioners :)
ok, let's leave it, we have another view on it 8)
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Message par UtterMarcus » 17 Juil 2017 2:47

metron a écrit :It is only your intepretation, same as it would be 'you must draw 7 ingredients' :)
And you don't answer my question 8)

let's do the math:
there're 40 ingredients
let's same you play the apprentice variant and draw 3 cards
4 player for 3 ingredients are 12 ingredients
there're sill 28 ingredients
the first round everyone use 1 herbalist (total 4 cards)

[/b]24 ingredients remains
now say that everyone go for the most ingredients in place order and keep in the hand the ingredients without spend it (total of 5 ingredients for round)
19 ingredients remain
round 2: 14 ingredients remain
round 3: 9 ingredients remain
round 4: 5 ingredients remain
round 5: 0 ingredients remain

but nobody play like that

Altar of gold: cost 1 gold to buy it. refer BGG search https://boardgamegeek.com/spsearch.php? ... ar+of+gold
witch's trunk: no one encounter the case you say with 0 ingredients available. but you draw how much you can. same for the place order ingredients number

if have doubt can ask to CGE directly using this form http://czechgames.com/en/contact/
Dernière édition par UtterMarcus le 17 Juil 2017 21:09, édité 2 fois.
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Message par metron » 17 Juil 2017 10:14

oh no, what have you done, you've opened pandora box ;p

your math is correct however if something is unlikely it doesn't mean it can't happen and shouldn't be consider :)
I was just more curious what algorithm do in case of such situation and I assume that it gives less then 7 cards
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